Interbeing
Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond.
In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters.
Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.
You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership Coaching for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Interbeing
Ep14: Why Belonging Starts With The Self with Aisha Thomas
Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better talk to Aisha Thomas, Founder & Director of Representation Matters, who has dedicated her career to transforming the lack of racial diversity in education.
They discuss how creating belonging starts with the self; why the question "do I belong?" will always be prevalent until society represents everyone; and the importance of listening and being uncomfortable.
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To get in touch with Aisha, you can find her online here:
Representation Matters: https://www.repmatters.co.uk/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aisha-thomas-b9786946/
Aisha's Book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Representation-Matters-How-anti-racist-educator/dp/1472989457
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
