
Interbeing
Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond.
In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters.
Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.
You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership Coaching for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Episodes
A Keynote Conversation: Fostering Brave Spaces and Curiosity with Claire Pedrick

Pedagogy & Assessment Round Table

Pedagogy & Assessment, with Angeline Aow

Ecological Domain Round Table

The Ecological Domain, with Noan Fesnoux

Political Economy Round Table Discussion

The Domain of Political Economy, with Homa Tavanger

Technology Round Table Discussion

The Technological Domain, with Tricia Friedman

Exploring Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools, with Patrick Alexander

S2Ep13: How We Can Help Students To Become Global Citizens with Dee Lanier

S2Ep12: How To Just Be: Unfreezing Our Leadership Potential with Nicholas Janni

S2Ep11: Nurturing The Cultural Richness Of International Schools with Shane Leaning

S2Ep10: Respect, Reflection, And Culturally Responsive Leadership with Ryan Persaud

S2Ep9: How To Truly Listen: Nurturing A 'Thinking Environment' with Candice Smith

S2Ep8: Creative & Connected Organisations: An Improv-able Approach with Stuart Reid

S2Ep7: The Growing Importance Of Prioritising Wellbeing In Schools with Matthew Savage (part 2)

S2Ep6: Data-Driven Wellbeing In Schools: How To Nurture DEIJ with Matthew Savage (part 1)

S2Ep5: Empowering Young Voices: Faith, Peace & Feminism with St. Mary's School

S2Ep4: How We Can Create Systemic Kindness with Sam Isaacson

S2Ep3: Helping Young People Find Their Path With Kyra Kellawan

S2Ep2: Language As A Catalyst with Pádraig O Tuama

S2Ep1: An Introduction To Season 2: Organisational Health
