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Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.

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S2Ep13: How We Can Help Students To Become Global Citizens with Dee Lanier

February 28, 2024 • By Matt Hall, Gill Kelly and Naomi Ward • Season 2 • Episode 13

Welcome to the Principled podcast.

In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Dee Lanier, Lead Learning Designer at Lanier Learning and Education Coach for Samsung Education. Award winning TEDX speaker and author of Demarginalising Design, Dee Lanier is dedicated to co-designing equitable learning experiences for school leaders, staff, and students, and helping schools to implement technology in meaningful ways.

They discuss design thinking as a mindset, the importance of empathy, and solving the problem ‘with’ versus ‘for’.

How can we find out what really matters to the communities in and around schools to create an environment of change and development? Might there be a disconnect between what leaders and administrators recognise as challenges, and what the community they lead recognise as challenges? How can we begin to bridge that gap?

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To get in touch with Dee, you can find him online here:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deelanier/

Demarginalising Design: https://www.amazon.com/Demarginalizing-Design-Elevating-Problem-Solving/dp/0578286556

Lanier Learning: https://www.lanierlearning.com/

The Liberated Educator podcast: https://wavve.link/LiberatedPod/episodes

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To get in touch, please find us online here:

Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en